Yes, I appreciate that we have already made jam so this is not THAT exciting. But different from jam, we actually picked and cleaned and peeled this fruit. It came from the orange tree in our yard. The long and short of it is that we are too conservative and once again over-cooked our jam/jelly. We are just too worried about our natural pectin and the spoon test does not seem to work for us. So we are going to make another batch and jar it 10 minutes before we think it is ready. It tasted pretty good but was just a bit too think. Live and learn!